having a republican and all of that but republicans -- and also democrats, are quietly turning to the white house, what are you doing to us? you are a liberal democrat, what do you want him for, he voted against democrats on gay rights and abortion and gun control and now they are supposed to walk the plank because the president thinks it will be cute to have, you know, a republican as secretary of defense. >> chris: kirsten, how much trouble is hagel in and, begin all of the publicity he has gotten, as the person obama wants to pick, if he doesn't go ahead with this, after what happened with susan rice, what kind of message does that send, at the beginning of the president's second term? >> well, i mean, to a lot of people it would send a message he's not willing to fight for people, but, the reason he needs to -- no reason he needs to fight for hagel. susan rice is close to him and has been for a long time. with hagel, i don't think he has a big constituency, as bill outline. certainly not a big constituency, among the democrats. if he can't get republican votes, what is this poine point